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« on: September 22, 2009, 01:37:56 PM »

would he?  well he is for the better future for our country, and hemp can be made into almost anything.  think about it if we legalized hemp we wouldn't have to depend on other countries for a lot of the things we do now.  look up the emporor of hemp on www.youtube.com, look up super high me,  weed is not harmful to us.  neither is hemp.  mainly look up the emporor of hemp.  it is a great video and sheds a lot of light on the things that people don't want u to see or hear.  criticize me for being a user/pro-marijuana person but until you know the facts and until you know the truth about weed and hemp you can't fully criticize me based on the lies you have heard. 

well i love alfanzo and can't wait to get his book.  had to put that there.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 08:59:56 PM »

Fyi, Zo's opinion of legalized weed is that it will bring about bigger government. Because if it is legalized, it needs to be regulated, need specific laws about it, etc. All of which means bigger government.

Personally, I hate the stuff. I hate what it represents in this country. I hate all those stupid movies about losers who get high, get into trouble and magically everything is okay in the end, because it's a movie and it's dope-smoking writers are trying to convince themselves that their lifestyle is valid.

However, I am Libertarian on this issue. Leave it up to states. The Federal government has way too much control over things as it is nor does the constitution give the Fed that right, from what I understand.

Anyway, that's my two cents.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 01:22:39 PM »

true it would create a bigger gov. but it also would create a lot of money that could be used for good.  also in the bible, i am not exactly sure where but i am pretty sure its in genesis, it says that all seed bearing plants should be given to the people.  or something like that.  isn't it a seed bearing plant?
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 04:46:50 PM »

My 1st post WOOT!

There are all kinds of arguments for hemp/weed being legal.  I'd like to give some to keep it illegal, besides the big government reason.  Marijuana is a gateway drug, and so is alcohol.  But I drank 1st, smoked weed 2nd, then I got even more brave and tried other things, i.e. mushrooms.  I don't think I ever would have done those other things had it not been for weed.  Thankfully, I new my limits and quit years ago.  It was a college thing.  But if you legalize weed, people will go nuts!  People will be high everywhere.  They'll be smoking it everywhere.  We'll have to make new laws to regulate where you can smoke weed, etc (bigger gov.)
Idiots will drive high, kids will get a hold of it easier.  Lets face it.  Being high is not healthy.  It's not a good thing.  So why would we want to dumb down our country?  I don't, but some socialist/communist thinkers would love it.  It would keep them in power and in control.  I could go on and on, but it boils down to this...
Hemp as a source for industry is good.  Hemp as a source of a high is bad.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 09:04:18 PM »

Well, the problem is, people do this anyways, they still get marijuana and unfortunately it being illegal doesn't stop that at all. Instead it makes it hard for people to get safe marijuana and then they end up getting bad marijuana and they end up smoking it in unhealthy ways, like instead of consuming it via food or via one of those vaporizer things because it's illegal to promote the use of them. So, it being illegal makes it hard to be educated on healthy ways and causes people to do it in unhealthy ways because they're going to do it anyways. Man, they're doing it all over, i bet half the people you know do it at least and you don't even realize it. So, having it illegal is just plan bad.

We have other things that are absolutely worse that are legal, alcohol. A person that is drunk is much worse than a stoned person. Just drive in the car with each and see which you think is worse, just hang out with each and see which is worse.

The law is obviously not based on what is healthy or safe, it's based on lobbyist. I was told in my Addictive Processes class in college that it Marijuana was exposed as bad because (I don't recall the exact details unfortunately, that was over 15 years ago) some politicians felt it was competing with their products, like rope or something. The silly thing is Hemp and marijuana are completely different. You could smoke hemp all day and probably wouldn't get a buzz, but if you smoke one toke of some decent weed on the other hand you'll be trashed! So, Hemp should absolutely be legalized, damn government is so corrupt. It's soooooooo corrupt, they don't care about you, only the money, it's all about the money to them, they're sick. The government is nothing more than a social disease! Way worse than any stoner... Both sides, republicans and democrats, they're all sick. I am totally for less government, they just screw everything up...
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 02:23:25 PM »

I was sharing MSP with a friend last night and it was the video where it starts with the paper people in a frying pan...

Well, Zo says some powerful things in there about this topic and it made me think twice about what i said in a previous post about hemp being illegal makes it hard to do in healthy ways. Zo seems to take the position that legalizing it will make it something the government will monitor and have more control over and that will spill into a more liberal government movement on providing care for it. This arguement, which i can not articulate as well as Zo, makes a lot of sense. However, it's hard to say if it outweighs the legitimacy of my arguement.

I don't believe in advocating for anything healthy, but i do believe in allowing people to have and make choices. I wish it could be within the realm of healthy options at all times, that would be beautiful. But this arguement like many is very hard to tackle. I don't know if there are any benefits whatsoever to the consumption of THC outside of the medical ones, i wonder if there are any others, like mental ones, if consumed in a controlled way. I know that some people self medicate by consuming various drugs, like alcohol, marijuana, cigarettes, etc... these may be erorroneous beliefs they have or legitimate. It's hard to say in any sort of global way if not impossible. But, all in all drugs are definitely more of a problem than it is a benefit. The question is, when is it more of a problem, when it's legal or illegal. I thought i had a good grasp on that in my previous post, but after watching that video I'm now second guessing that .


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